tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.comments2024-02-27T15:51:44.428+00:00UK RailStephen Colebournehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01454237967846880639noreply@blogger.comBlogger329125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-37346677279843495792024-02-22T08:09:52.037+00:002024-02-22T08:09:52.037+00:00The text says "The 'total effective time&...The text says "The 'total effective time' is the sum of all effective times modelled. It is a reasonable proxy for the total enhancement provided by the scheme." ie. it is just a sum of all the individual journey times calculated below.Stephen Colebournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01454237967846880639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-46080858864920281362024-02-21T23:34:55.198+00:002024-02-21T23:34:55.198+00:00how did you calculate the time? was it total of al...how did you calculate the time? was it total of all train users? what sample size? i am confused on how you got that big of a number for the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-23748560381751736022023-10-28T16:04:47.838+01:002023-10-28T16:04:47.838+01:00A train at the end of my garden every 6 mins each ...A train at the end of my garden every 6 mins each way! No thanks! Ashbourne Road Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-85456025534323251172023-04-04T14:05:58.361+01:002023-04-04T14:05:58.361+01:00What will the track layout be at Raynes Park?What will the track layout be at Raynes Park?Train Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07487219335395510912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-80328604735483945982022-12-16T17:40:28.268+00:002022-12-16T17:40:28.268+00:00How I wish this would become a reality!How I wish this would become a reality!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-55774901593501749772022-12-06T20:38:16.424+00:002022-12-06T20:38:16.424+00:00I still think that this is a great proposal. Perha...I still think that this is a great proposal. Perhaps this is the sort of proposal that the Wealden Line and Railfuture organisations should be campaigning for. I mean, you're not going to be able to squeeze many more trains up through Sanderstead in order to reach London during the peaks with Thameslink now operating services to and from East Grinstead. <br /><br />So having say a dedicated Gatwick-Canary Wharf-Stansted rail line with a connection from the Oxted route at the foot of the North Downs by the M25 might be an alternative option. Ashford, Horsham and East Grinstead are already well served by rail so perhaps the connection could be better used by serving the Uckfield and Tunbridge Wells lines.<br /><br />As an alternative option, the Uckfield route could be upgraded and see the construction of a new Uckfield-Ringmer-Lewes link. Similarly, the line through Tunbridge Wells West could also be reinstated, allowing new services to loop around to London via both Ashurst and Tonbridge. Careful consideration would have to be given to the heritage operations of both the Lavender and Spa Valley railways who have helped maintain parts of the closed sections if they were to be put back into the national rail network. <br /><br />All purely speculative ofcourse but seeing such progress on HS2 and East-West Rail gives me hope that a high level proposal like this could one day get approval. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-65111725492620794102021-09-30T09:37:53.119+01:002021-09-30T09:37:53.119+01:00Yes the new Aldgate would be a District/Metropolit...Yes the new Aldgate would be a District/Metropolitan interchange. That is what makes the proposal feasible in terms of not losing journey opportunities. The proposed location was a bus station when this page was written, so could be developed, whereas a site further south would need more complex land purchase (an interchange with Fenchurch Street is of course desirable, but not at any price).Stephen Colebournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01454237967846880639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-21052623043428368082021-09-30T07:50:45.987+01:002021-09-30T07:50:45.987+01:00Nice idea. I note you have a new Aldgate Station ...Nice idea. I note you have a new Aldgate Station with interchange to District. Would this be a new station for both lines? If positioned further south it could have an interchange with Fenchurch St Station (would need a new access and gateline at Eastern end) and also with Tower Gateway DLR. The existing Tower Hill could be closed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-28765814934024375942021-04-12T17:11:56.475+01:002021-04-12T17:11:56.475+01:00What I would do Is make a Quadruple track tunnel B...What I would do Is make a Quadruple track tunnel Between Barnes and Staines with the Current route being made into the Kingston loop but with a single track link to Staines for rail tours and freight trains with OLE would added to replace to the third rail with a fast and slow pair of lines with the fast lines have stops at barnies, Richmond, Twickenham, Feltham and Staines before joining the current lines at the east of branes and the west of Staines with the tunnels going under the river Thames so a bridge on the approach to Staines from reading can be removed because of it is 20 mph speed limit and the fast lines would be built for 140 mph running and the slow 110 mph running. The Old three track route would lose one track to a new cycle path. The the route east of branes would be made six tracks with four of them being in a cut and cover tunnel with each set being under the current route with and new tube line to take over the other two tracks the new tube line would run from somewhere like Stratford in the east to somewhere like Woking in the west. This new tube line would have a branch off to Heathrow from Richmond. The new tubes line eastern end would have 36 tph and the Woking branch 12tph and the Heathrow branch 24 tph. The signaling on the Mainline would be replace be ECTS witch can let up 36 tph use the line but in the normal service the 24 tph will be the maximum with the extra 12 tph for getting the service back on track after a major problem. Also on the Mainline the line from waterloo would made larger by 4 more tracks on a viaduct with a set of tunnels being built at the same time for the future so they can open them to more trains plus waterloo extended to the river bank. The Platforms would also be made longer enough for 40 coach long trains. Plus the the line to Reading would be made four tracks with the line Windsor having a pair of loops added about half way between Staines and Windsor with platforms on both the Loop and Fast lines so if a the Bridges break on the north of Staines a 30 Minute service can be run with the trains passing at the new loop.Train Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07487219335395510912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-64547846237151969432021-01-24T08:49:18.440+00:002021-01-24T08:49:18.440+00:00A (22/1/2021) The western leg of the Hammersmith a...A (22/1/2021) The western leg of the Hammersmith and City would have the same frequency as it does now (the Circle and H&C would cease to exist, but the same frequency would run to Hammersmith branded as the Met instead. Edgeware Road to High Street Ken and south would run as part of the District line, again with the same frequency as today)Stephen Colebournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01454237967846880639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-24280276767205735872021-01-22T22:19:20.692+00:002021-01-22T22:19:20.692+00:00What service would take the place of the far weste...What service would take the place of the far western leg of the Hammersmith and City line? Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-39709139816924045402020-09-21T10:30:31.039+01:002020-09-21T10:30:31.039+01:00You are making a good point about demand.
As for ...You are making a good point about demand.<br /><br />As for a tunnel to Euston, it would bring up the old problem of getting yet more lines with mixed overhead and third-rail electrification. The lines into Fenchurch Street have 25kV AC, just like those into Euston, so it would probably be better to link those, if (a big if) a good place could be found to take the Fenchurch Street lines underground.Peter Jansenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05366729384373454605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-37731133906727462082020-09-20T15:10:35.735+01:002020-09-20T15:10:35.735+01:00Right now we've no idea where the demand will ...Right now we've no idea where the demand will be in 10 or 20 years time, but its more likely to be in the eastern City fringes than the western ones IMO. As far as I can tell there is nowhere to bring a tunnel out between Blackfriars and London Bridge - if there were it would be better used to build a tunnel via Charing Cross to Euston replacing the surface tracks IMO.Stephen Colebournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01454237967846880639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-70709194558843912182020-09-20T14:46:56.384+01:002020-09-20T14:46:56.384+01:00I was thinking smaller, wanting to spend less. I&#...I was thinking smaller, wanting to spend less. I'd divert the Metropolitan Line, letting it follow the Thameslink alignment from Farringdon, letting it go underground south of Farringdon and come up again between Blackfriars and London Bridge, taking over some suitable services there.<br /><br />For a bigger plan, I'd let it go deeper north of Baker Street but follow the same route, in which case I'd use the freed capacity to extend the Wimbleware to Aldgate.Peter Jansenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05366729384373454605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-9441555728038394712020-01-12T13:26:20.481+00:002020-01-12T13:26:20.481+00:00Fascinating article! Funnily enough, I had wondere...Fascinating article! Funnily enough, I had wondered and been thinking about such an idea myself, although in my plan the 'swap' would've occured just north of Wimbledon and just south of Raynes park, although I can see how your idea works better and has been thoroughly thought through and researched whereas my idea was purely a shower though so to speak! <br /><br />Great minds think alike I guess!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01935560790233605354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-87082915953547221952019-07-27T16:43:42.975+01:002019-07-27T16:43:42.975+01:00I’d been having similar thoughts except I thought ...I’d been having similar thoughts except I thought more of a trajectory from Aldgate to Shadwell then parallel with DLR to Limehouse then curving southeast to interchange with the Jubilee line at Canary Wharf.then continuing via new stations at Kitts Town and Greenwich Central to terminate at Charlton.Chris Stobarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03666687310189268798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-5133061648638825082018-12-17T16:00:00.590+00:002018-12-17T16:00:00.590+00:00TfL propose 8 trams-per-hour. This blog summarises...TfL propose 8 trams-per-hour. This blog summarises my response to the consultation.Stephen Colebournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01454237967846880639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-43251261727131675142018-12-17T13:57:10.357+00:002018-12-17T13:57:10.357+00:00Good to see you posting a new blog... what would y...Good to see you posting a new blog... what would you suggest be the frequency of the trams? Have you submitted this proposal to TfL, local politicians, if so any response?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-57896879735331034002018-11-08T23:13:23.342+00:002018-11-08T23:13:23.342+00:00The problem is not easily solved. Firstly the LSWR...The problem is not easily solved. Firstly the LSWR chose an ancient right of way between common grazing between Barnes and Mortlake, thus avoiding Tescos etc. This was previously the site of Prtobello House which bounded by Howgate Road, Vernon Road, Sheen Lane, and South Worple. The estate was eventually decreed to Barnardos,. At such time the thing ought to have been rethought. As someone who has a detailed knowledge of the area.; I'd be happy to add proposals here. I'm uncertain how to contact relevant parties; so if anyone has any ideas please contact me.<br /><br />ThanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01682209472586087924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-88394364037121688182018-10-11T19:40:23.204+01:002018-10-11T19:40:23.204+01:00I like this idea because it is an idea I have roug...I like this idea because it is an idea I have roughly envisaged myself. It could alleviate the stress on the other lines and makes the Met Line a proper train service from Northwest to Southeast. However, I would be interested to know how this would affect the services to Chesham, Amersham, Uxbridge and Watford.<br />The station at Uxbridge is nearing capacity.<br />Watford only has 2 platforms so there is a slight problem with expansion, especially seeing as it is outside central Watford and a fair distance from the other stations (Overground and Main Line).<br />Amersham has 1 southbound platform used by both the Met and the Chiltern to Marylebone, while there are 2 northbound platforms for the chiltern to aylesbury: 1 platform for regular use and another for an alternative platform when the other is occupied.<br />Chesham is a very small station with only 1 platform, small ticket room, not enough ticket barriers and almost no staff. Possible expansion of Chesham station would require full redevelopment, meaning more than 1 platform, more ticket machines, more barriers, more parking in a different layout, and by now, there should be a consideration for extension beyond Chesham to build potential new stations at Ley Hill and Bovingdon (both underground, possibly underground at Chesham as well with overground terminating services as they are now) and an interchange with the main lines at Hemel Hempstead, Tring and/or Berkhamsted. This would result in more links to London from rural areas, while also eliminating the need for any bus travel between stations. It would also complete the extension from Chesham that was originally intended since many years before the Chesham branch opened in 1889.<br />This is an idea TfL should really consider and would make the Metropolitan line the true connector service it deserves to be.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536150555581659019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-75416576158706769252018-08-24T00:28:27.260+01:002018-08-24T00:28:27.260+01:00Looking at the tube map today I thought that there...Looking at the tube map today I thought that there was scope for extending the Metropolitan line further past Aldgate, I am slightly miffed to see I didn't have an original thought! However, my idea was to extend the Met a little further east, towards the Isle of Dogs. I live in Island Gardens and my struggles with the DLR (speed, links to west end etc.) had me thinking that it could be a good idea to see some new lines through the Docklands. It takes me over 15 minutes to even reach an underground station. I thought extending the Met through possibly Tower Hill then possibly to Wapping/St. Katherine's, Shadwell/Limehouse/Westferry, possibly Blackwall then to Canary Wharf, Island Gardens (forgive me for being so selfish), Greenwich, Deptford Park and then Lewisham. This would serve the south east and Isle of Dogs much better, having a direct line all the way through London, rather than the rather slow DLR and the often long walks to a different station. Connecting through the Docklands may be a much harder task thought, as underground stations would probably have to be built at nearly all stops (and is it even viable) as well as possibly new tracks. Still, one can dream. Loved this post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-68108422056171156072018-03-19T17:13:22.239+00:002018-03-19T17:13:22.239+00:00At some point there will need to be 4 tracks south...At some point there will need to be 4 tracks south of Gatwick, but without the section north of there there is no point in the investment. I suspect that enough of the line could be four-tracked on the existing alignment south of Gatwick without needing a new alignment. This is why the best thing is to focus on the London section first.Stephen Colebournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01454237967846880639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-77148959510093205232018-03-19T09:38:25.764+00:002018-03-19T09:38:25.764+00:00Great proposal Stephen, particularly if linked to ...Great proposal Stephen, particularly if linked to your suggested Anglian Relief Line proposal, giving a direct link between Gatwick and Stansted. Perhaps this could also complement the latest HS4Air proposal to link HS1 with HS2 via Gatwick and Heathrow, thus further creating the envisioned "M25 railway". What are your thoughts on extending your proposal down to the coast to Brighton with additional East and West Coastway links too? The Brighton Main Line is fairly constrained along it's entire length and with just the two track section south of Three Bridges handling most of the traffic from the Sussex coast, this will become a barrier to any future growth on the route. <br /><br />This is purely suggestive ofcourse but how about new tracks south of Gatwick running alongside the M23/A23 down to Pyecombe with new stations at Hickstead and Hurstpierpoint and then extensive tunnelling south of there into subsurface platforms at Brighton? A new West Coastway link could be Hurstpierpoint to Worthing via Steyning, again with extensive tunnelling through the South Downs, joining the West Coastway between Lancing and East Worthing. <br /><br />A new East Coastway link could be Hickstead to Lewes via Ditchling, skirting the northern edge of the South Downs and joining the Keymer-Lewes line south of Cooksbridge. All this additional capacity, effectively creating a proper "BML2" could potentially make Gatwick a major rail hub with direct high speed connections to Canary Wharf, Stratford, Stansted, GEML, Heathrow, GWML, HS2 and CTRL.<br /><br />Obviously cheaper and far less intrusive options could be to make more use of the Arun Valley Line for additional West Coastway traffic, plus a Lewes-Uckfield rebuild, with selected redoubling and "wiring up" of the existing Uckfield route for additional East Coastway traffic. Not too sure about the East Grinstead-Haywards Heath connection though unless you're suggesting some sort of joint operation between the Bluebell and national rail. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13909078976162532488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-71663781034727769062018-03-13T19:26:08.712+00:002018-03-13T19:26:08.712+00:00Thanks Stephen. I think a new line via Bromley mak...Thanks Stephen. I think a new line via Bromley makes for an attractive alternative although routing via East Croydon seems to be favourable among proposals by both Wealden Line Campaign (BML2) and Railfuture. However, since your blog was posted, both groups still seem to have very little or no detail yet on how additional services would be routed north of Stratford. Obviously four tracking Coppermill junction-Brimsdown through Tottenham Hale would help if you could "resurface" somewhere just north of Stratford but if they're both proposing a Thameslink style service with a maximum throughput, then a new line scenario will surely be needed. <br /><br />I think the same applies to Gatwick as I don't believe there can be anymore train paths available on either slow or fast BML tracks south of Croydon so surely new tracks will be needed to create the "Stanwick" connection that the BML2 campaigners are envisaging. <br /><br />Maybe having two new routes north of Gatwick is a bit extreme but perhaps combined with a new build line coming up from Brighton-East/West Coastway......would be nice to serve both the east and west end of London. Not as if anyone is going to finance any of that ofcourse although a second runway at Gatwick might swing a new line in favour into at least one single preferred option. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13909078976162532488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5925703452051453468.post-87813600529115849592018-03-12T18:11:55.792+00:002018-03-12T18:11:55.792+00:00Have you presented this proposal to TfL? This wil...Have you presented this proposal to TfL? This will be good for London.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com